RE: mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, in trip

Bill Shatzer (
Sun, 3 Dec 1995 12:29:19 -0800

>>On 12/02/95, Shane stated succinctly:
>>4 Not all pilots bothered to claim victories at all. Collishaw said of
>>Stan Dallas that his score was probably "many more" because Dallas
>>basically didn't give a shit about being a hero, he just wanted to finish
>>the job and go home. He didn't make it.
> An interesting point. One wonders if there were perhaps others with a more
>workman like approach.

I gotta be a little sceptical on this 'un - I mean, a pilot isn't doing
his job if he doesn't 'claim' victories. He's supposed to be writing up
a flight report after each flight, including those which include combat,
saying exactly what occured. I suppose a pilot that 'didn't care about
being a hero' could write "fired on enemy pursuit which disappeared into
clouds" while one 'tooting his own horn' could write "hit enemy pursuit
with 20 rds of MG which promptly spiralled into clouds out of control."

But, if a pilot sees the e/a catch fire or crash or come apart in mid-air,
that's supposed to be in the report and an 'official' victory should
follow. Maybe what Collishaw was saying was that, unlike some other
nameless individuals, Dallas was not prone to claim that every aircraft
he shot at and then lost sight of was an OOC? Maybe he was claiming only
'real' victories?


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