Re: This case of the Blues is starting to Suck ;>

Mick Fauchon (
Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:59:36 +1100 (EST)


> Mick / Erik, I have reached a conclusion with the Blues.
> 1) As best I can tell, blue undersides were used only on a/c that
> had no Loz on the wings. ie Pfalz DIII's, Fokker DrI's, Albatros
> DI, DII, DIII, A few Albatros DV's. This is not an entire listing

Yep, so far so good....
> 2) These a/c cover a time span of about 1915 to 1917. After which they
> began to cover all the planes with Loz.
Unfortunately, Dr1s and Pfalz DXIIs at least turn up in 1918 with
blue [or turquoise] undersides. Just to complicate things, so C and CL
classes also turned up in blue or clear dope/buff/yellow.

> 3) When the Germans began to rebuild the Luftwaffe in the mid 1930's
> they stuck with the colors that worked in WWI. No sense in recreating
> the wheel right?

I'd be prepared to say that they referred to the colours, but not
necessarily usind exactly the same "recipe". You'll find that most of the
colours in the 4/5 colour lozenge disappeared entirely after WW1.

> 4) Therefore it should be safe to say that we can get buy with WWII RLM
> Blues for our pristine WWI birds.

Yes, or Humbrol 23 for the supposed turquoise; those are the only
vlues I'd use.

> 5) My tendency is to say that RLM 65 was used most often. This is only
> an educated guess, but then so is everything else.

......or something pretty close.

> This gives us three colors of blue for the undersides of German planes.
> (i) RLM 65
> (ii) RLM 76
> (iii) RLM 78

Why RLM 76? I'd exclude it entirely.

> RLM 78 was used in North Africa during WWII. RLM 65 was phased out on
> production a/c during the Battle of Brittian. RLM 76 was used throughout
> the entire second world war.

Not exactly: 74/75/75 were only phased in at the earliest towards
the close of the B of B, if that early.

As best I can tell RLM 78 was only used in
> North Africa. RLM 70, 71, 74, 75, 81, 82, 83, 02, 04, were used exclusively
> during WWII.


> BTW Mick, Please don't ask me to settle for a Budwiser =(
> I'll drive miles just to stay away from that stuff.

Yeah, I was only kidding: I'd hate to be responsible for poisoning
anyone 80)

The best I can get
> would have to be Oldenburg. Yea; brewed in Cincinatti, but it meets
> the specs of ein Deutschen Bier. Outside of that Sam Adams is alright.

I'll have to take your word for it 80): we have a local beer called
Hahn, which fits the bill pretty well 80)

> Ich mu3t arbieten. Wir haben vielen schnee wetter huete!
> T"u3ch///////////////////////////////////////////////

Jo, mu3 leider auch arbeiten. In den letzten Tagen haben wir ziemlich
viel Regen gehabt, was f"ur uns im Sommer eine Seltenheit ist. Schnee?....
leider nicht daran zu denken.



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