re: planes and stuff

Graham Collins (
Thu, 8 Dec 1994 19:23:00 -0500


DR>While I tend to fly "sport scale" aircraft I have seen a precision
DR>scale Jenny fly. It was quite stable and very elegant in the air.
DR>Much like the original. Of course the pilot had a lot to do with
DR>this. Like most planes of this era, models tend to have a rough time
DR>in a cross wind. I have flying a 1/6th sport scale Sopwith Pup. It is
DR>a wonderful flyer and has been a blast. As Guy pointed out takeoffs
DR>and landings are tough to get right. Modelers also tend to overpower
DR>their aircraft which helps. I am building a 1/6th sport scale N-17
DR>now which I hope to have ready for Spring.

I have always been fascinated by R/C but my real love is scale free
flight particularily the rubber powered kind, thou the very small
electrics are very interesting too; no more exploding rubbe motors
destroying many hours of work etc etc. The WW1 types seem to be the
hardest to trim out but the most rewarding in the end.

DR>In thinking about how the full scale guys fly it brings to mind how
DR>surprised I was at the D-VII at Rhinebeck. This has an original
DR>Mercedes engine. It flies with a noticable tail down attitude. With
DR>the 9' prop turning 2100 RPM it had NO trouble taking off and
DR>assuming a pretty steep angle of attack, something else that
DR>surprised me. The Jenny there and the Avro 504K tend to gently rise
DR>off the ground. While certainly the pilots control this, it does seem
DR>that these two just rose, in a basically level attitude, off the
DR>ground. The 17, D-VIII, Dr1, Camel and D-VII were "pulled off". Is
DR>this my imagination or what?

interesting observation, I will have to pay more attention next time I
get to see some of the old birds flying but its seems that your
observations are pretty much right on the mark. Even modern fighter
aircraft seem the same way to me; some of the trainer types just seem to
fly and the bigger, heavier, faster fighter types are more or less
thrown around.

regards, Graham


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