WWI Digest 2853 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Do You Like Games?ϲϷ𣿣 # F1F by wwi@hknet.com 2) Re: Engineering Innovations German vs. Allied by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 3) RE: What Sells? by Todd Hayes 4) Re: asking for trouble by "Alberto Casirati" 5) RE: Pfalz E.I revisited by "dfernet0" 6) RE: What sells? by Crawford Neil 7) RE: PC10 or not so PC10 kits was (Re: What Sells ) by "Sandy Adam" 8) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! by "Sandy Adam" 9) Re: What Can We Do for Them? by "Matt Bittner" 10) RE: Aviatik&Aviatik(Berg) by Crawford Neil 11) Re: PC10 or not so PC10 kits was (Re: What Sells ) by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: Top two books by "Matt Bittner" 13) Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! by "Alberto Casirati" 14) RE: What sells? by "Matt Bittner" 15) Cheap Blue Max kits/ Aeroclub BE2e by "Sandy Adam" 16) Catching up on digest threads by "Sandy Adam" 17) RE: Christmas Wish List by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 18) Re: Christmas Wish List by "Carol & David Solosy" 19) Re: PC10 or not so PC10 kits by "cameron rile" 20) Neat RE8 by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Christmas Wish List by "Bob Pearson" 22) Re: PC10 or not so PC10 kits by "Bob Pearson" 23) Re: Pfalz E.I by "Matt Bittner" 24) MoS Type L by smperry@mindspring.com 25) New images by "Matt Bittner" 26) Re: MoS Type L by "Matt Bittner" 27) RE: MoS Type L by "dfernet0" 28) RE: MoS Type L by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:14:17 +0800 From: wwi@hknet.com To: ml1980@aol.com Subject: Do You Like Games?ϲϷ𣿣 # F1F Message-ID: <200011292233.GAA14163@public.bl.nbptt.zj.cn> This is a MIME Message ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0" ------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ***** This is an HTML Message ! ***** ------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = http

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------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:23:16 EST From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Engineering Innovations German vs. Allied Message-ID: <39.d2bee4c.27576874@aol.com> In a message dated 11/29/00 11:16:56 PM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << I think German stuff sells better because the world is full of closet nazi's. E. >> I wish I could be as confident as E is that he's cracked a joke, but when you read some of the posts at other (unnamed and unnamable) modeling related websites, you often find yourself thinking that statement might be dead-on accurate. You often discover the people who worry about black helicopters are more prevalent than you previously feared. Tom Cleaverr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:13:41 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: What Sells? Message-ID: <20001130081341.79134.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> There are always exceptions. Besides the Brisfit, there's also the AW FK.8. Any aircraft could be deadly with the right crew or a lucky shot. von Richthofen could have testified to that. Todd --- Shane Weier wrote: > Todd says: > > > Again, to quote a quote, British twoseaters were, > > "ugly brown aircraft with targets painted on > them." > > But I like 'em. > > Just as well. Not easy to draw a bead on the targets > on the sides of a > Brisfit. Likely to cause your early demise. > > In passing, and as usual, we see the US contingent > en masse accounting the > German aircraft superior on account of being more > "striking", "prettier" > etc. I dare say they had louder engines too, which > would make them doubly > attractive ;-) > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:07:43 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: asking for trouble Message-ID: <00bb01c05ab5$61aecd00$320106c0@acasirat> Italian subjects can really be interesting and a joy to model: nice and interesting subjects, colourful schemes and personal markings and real exploits by first rate crews ..... what a pity there are so few kits around ! Most wanted for 2001 (in 1/72nd scale): - Pomilio PE - Sia 7b - Hanriot H.d.1 (a good one, please!) - Spad 7 - SVA 5 (a good one, please - those recently issued by an easter european manufacturer seem based heavily on the Pegasus kit, which was not very accurate....) Heja ! Alberto Casirati ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 7:19 PM Subject: Re: asking for trouble > On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:09:02 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > > > Another observation: seems like we've become thirsty for french or italian > > subjects.... would this trend confirm when the wishlist will grow? It's a > > fresh change from the usual british/german hegemony > > Some of us have always been "thirsty" for French or Italian...it's just > that the masses tell the manufacturers "German". > > > Matt Bittner > "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:03:24 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Pfalz E.I revisited Message-ID: <006701c05ab4$c6d784c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Avec des cocardes franaises, bien sr! Diegano de Bergerac ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 10:18 PM Subject: Pfalz E.I revisited > Well, I was wrong. Turns out the Pfalz E.I was a license built copy of > the Morane Saulnier Type *H* and not the G. > > Now my next dilemma - French or IRAS markings... > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:11:32 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: What sells? Message-ID: French 5-colour camouflage isn't impossible to mask, just hard work. I used Tamiya tape that I laid on glass, and cut with a sharp knife in wavy shapes, then just patched the masks together as necessary and sprayed each colour. I did two models while I was at it. Otherwise do as Alberto suggested in his Ni28 article, brush paint, I'm sure that would work well. Lozenge and rib-tapes is hard work too. /Neil Michael wrote: French stuff is either all-CDL, all-aluminium or an impossible to mask 5-colour camouflage (we need decals for that). - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:56:52 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: RE: PC10 or not so PC10 kits was (Re: What Sells ) Message-ID: <002701c05abe$aef742a0$32e8b094@sandyada> Not to labour the point about colour schemes - obviously most RFC models will be predominantly PC10 and CDL - (I happen to like building series of aircraft and the fact that many are in similar garb is an added atrraction for me) - but if you want to make colourful subjects you can do so as previously indicated. However more importantly, Eduard have released one subject - say the Alb DVa - they then released several other DV/Va models principally to lower the cost of content - ie taking out the metal engine etc. Then they released The DIII, Dr1, DIII OAW, soon a DII and possibly an OEF. Same sort of thing with Nieuports. They will presumably do exactly the same with forthcoming British releases. The Camel will be an F1, followed hopefully by a 2F1, an NF, a 2-seater, the Taper-wing, Swallow, Scooter? Similarly an SE5a Hisso, could be followed by a Wolseley 5a, an SE5 with and without glasshouse and pointy wings, and an SE5b. After all they did three Tripehounds - single gun, two gun and skis. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:48:05 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Message-ID: <002801c05abe$b01c3aa0$32e8b094@sandyada> I refuse to listen to any criticism of the fabulous SE5a. SE5a is most beautiful aeroplane ever made - it was known in the RFC as the "honey machine" - absolutely right. Don't tell me about streamlined Pfalzes and Albatrosse - stupid looking unbalanced sesquiplanes with bloopy rudders and pregnant fat bellies. Look like they were dropped by an ugly bird on to the top of the ugly tree and hit every one of the ugly branches on the way down. Look like the miscegenated liaison between Robin Cook (UK Foreign Minister) and Anne Widdicombe (UK Ugly Minister - aka Pudding-Bowl). (Although the Holtzem DIIIa I've just finished is growing on me a little) Sandy PS when Quasimodo went to renew his annual licence as the "Ugliest Man in the World", he came away muttering "Who's Robin Cook?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:21:01 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: What Can We Do for Them? Message-ID: <200011301120.DAA08528@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:07:29 -0500 (EST), GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > Bad news Matt, no Renault book for Christmas, word from the front is that > there are still some projects ahead of it. Bummer. However, it could be like the famed FMP Pfalz book - Christmas *next year*. And once that rolls around, Christmas *next year*...ad infinitum. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:19:55 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Aviatik&Aviatik(Berg) Message-ID: Thank you Graham, I'm afraid I'm not interested enough in Aviatik for that, just wanted to sort out my reference list. Your answer was enough , I'll file Aviatik(Berg) in Austria, and Aviatik in Germany, with a note about the connection. Thanks for your help. /Neil -----Original Message----- From: Graham Nash [mailto:graham.nash@LineOne.net] Sent: den 29 november 2000 22:44 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Aviatik&Aviatik(Berg) Both the same and different. I don't have references to hand so this is just from memory. Aviatik was orginially a German Compsny. It formed an Austrian subsidiary, who English name was Austrian Aviatik. The Austrian firm employed Julius Berg as a designer - hence Aviatik (Berg) I have a PC database (MS Access) with about 200mg of info in it. Would anyone like a copy on CD for a small handling charge? It is based on the Hikoki book of a few years ago. Sandy Adam had a version from me a year ago. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Crawford Neil Sent: 29 November 2000 16:20 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Aviatik&Aviatik(Berg) I have a sort of manual database, in which I write up all aircraft I know, and all my referenes to them. I've been doing it since I was 15, there were no computers in those days, and I've never bothered converting it because A.) I sit in front of a computer all day, and B.) I can write up my references while watching TV. It has worked very well except for a small problem that I caused myself by poor planning when I began. Nowadays I use a loose-leaf binder, but then I used a notebook so of course I ran out of space. I am gradually converting my notebook to my "modern" loose-leaf system, yesterday evening I got to Aviatik, and what a mess it is. I originally wrote it up on my Austro-hungarian page, but then unfortunately kept writing up german Aviatiks on the same page. My question is was Aviatik and Aviatik(Berg) related in any way? Was it the same mother company, or two completely different companies? Best regards Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:32:11 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: PC10 or not so PC10 kits was (Re: What Sells ) Message-ID: <200011301131.DAA21712@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:32:29 -0500 (EST), cameron rile wrote: > I get the point you are trying to make but I > disagree with it. The Niueport kit schemes are > predominantly Aluminium doped just with differant > squadron markings, whether it is 29 RFC's red > stripe, Bishops blue nose or the Lafayette's > Seminole(sp?). Swap the Silver dope for PC10 and > it is pretty much the same. Actually, not true. The French showed more color because they were allowed to. Take Guynemer's mounts for example. He usually had red/blue stripes over parts of his aircraft. In addition, markings of any kind look better across the aluminim dope instead of PC10. Plus nothing spoils the looks of the Nieuports more than British roundels on the sides. Blech! :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:34:28 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Top two books Message-ID: <200011301134.DAA24405@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:55:34 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > If I could only have two books as reference I would have to choose The FMP French and IRAS tomes. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:45:33 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Message-ID: <00e901c05ac3$0cbb54e0$320106c0@acasirat> "...the most beautiful aeroplane ever made ..." mmmmhhh let's see: what about the Hanriot H.d.1 ? Exquisite flying qualities, rugged construction, excellent manouvrability and climb and even better looking, too. It was named "the aeroplane which turns a nivice into an average pilot and the average pilot into an ace". Just my thought, of course ! Alberto Casirati ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Adam" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 12:20 PM Subject: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! > I refuse to listen to any criticism of the fabulous SE5a. > > SE5a is most beautiful aeroplane ever made - it was known in the RFC as the > "honey machine" - absolutely right. Don't tell me about streamlined Pfalzes > and Albatrosse - stupid looking unbalanced sesquiplanes with bloopy rudders > and pregnant fat bellies. Look like they were dropped by an ugly bird on to > the top of the ugly tree and hit every one of the ugly branches on the way > down. Look like the miscegenated liaison between Robin Cook (UK Foreign > Minister) and Anne Widdicombe (UK Ugly Minister - aka Pudding-Bowl). > > (Although the Holtzem DIIIa I've just finished is growing on me a little) > > Sandy > PS when Quasimodo went to renew his annual licence as the "Ugliest Man in > the World", he came away muttering "Who's Robin Cook?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:39:31 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: What sells? Message-ID: <200011301139.DAA16141@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:16:41 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote: > French 5-colour camouflage isn't impossible to mask, just hard work. > I used Tamiya tape that I laid on glass, and cut with a sharp knife > in wavy shapes, then just patched the masks together as necessary > and sprayed each colour. I did two models while I was at it. Otherwise > do as Alberto suggested in his Ni28 article, brush paint, I'm sure that > would work well. Lozenge and rib-tapes is hard work too. I agree, not impossible just tedious. I have three five-color jobs finished so far (although one of them is an unusual five-color) with another on the way. If I have a drawing of what the five color breaks outs are then I'll photocopy it to 1/72nd and use that as a basis for tape masks I cut out of wide masking tape. If not then I draw what the demarcations appear to be on a photocopy of 1/72nd plans and then use those as masking tape "masks". Heck, I have another five color coming up... :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:39:05 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Cheap Blue Max kits/ Aeroclub BE2e Message-ID: <002f01c05ac2$3c7f39e0$32e8b094@sandyada> If you fancy a BM Snipe or Dolphin (or Alb OEF), Hannants have them in their sale at the moment at 14.99GBP each. I sent off on the first day for another one of each Sopwith and thought they might only have a single of each but the chap on the phone assured me they had a great pile of them. Anyway, they have just arrived and yes, brand new kits (Dolphin is latest release) at something like cost price. If anyone is interested, sale codes are ZBM112 & ZBM113. Sales postage is fixed so probably best if you want to combine with anything else you want. Go to webpage and ask them for sale lists and rules. Re the postage, I ordered an Aeroclub BE2e at the same time and I have this in front of me now. In light grey plastic, looks softer and more delicate than usual Aeroclub. Nice stringer, rib and interior detail. Looks like will make up into a very convincing BE. Lots of metal parts - struts look much better than usual. Lovely engine with separate cylinder heads. Includes a lewis gun and a camera. One set of markings and excellent GA plans on fold out sheet. (large aeroplane). No exploded view of construction but I'm sure none of us would need that. Marks out of ten (at first glance, pre taking parts of trees) - 9/10. Great value at 24.50GBP - can't wait to start this one too. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:43:25 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Catching up on digest threads Message-ID: <003701c05ac2$c1d6a9c0$32e8b094@sandyada> I'll vote for a 1/48 Maurice Farman Shorthorn, (since the FK8's gone!) Congrats to David S on beautiful little Fokker EIV etc - could almost taste the castor oil! Re German innovation. Worth remembering that the Allied blockade forced much of this as German industry could not get traditional materials. If you can get limitless supplies of first class wood cheaply to make light strong airframes and have a large skilled workforce to make and mend them, why change? The only reason would be if the products were inferior in the field, which was demonstrably not the case. The Hurricane example shows how much more development was still to be wrought from the traditional methods. Built this year (all 1/48): Sopwith Camel (Ruston 1000 - oh well!) Sopwith Tabloid Roland CII SPAD A2 (will be finished shortly) Pfalz A.I Pfalz DIII Pfalz DVIII Pfalz Dr1 Pfalz E.I (just about finished) Pfalz DIIIa (Might be a theme here) Who said I was anti-German? Sandy PS My award to EtH for truest, most succinct comment yet posted. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:53:02 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Christmas Wish List Message-ID: > The accessory should be liquid rigging, just touch a point and a perfect > straigh rigging wire will stretch to the next point you touch... > I want lozenge in a spray can. And Fr. 5 color too. An 'UNDO' tool please... Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:37:45 +0800 From: "Carol & David Solosy" To: "WW1 list" Subject: Re: Christmas Wish List Message-ID: > 1/48 SPAD VII. Preferably injection-molded. > 1/72 Junkers D-I Injection > 1/72nd SPAD 7, preferably by Eduard > 1/72 Nieuport 17 injection mold > 1/72 Caproni Ca-3 Injection (Eduard?) > 1/72 Fairey F2 Vacuformed > 1/48 Rumbler CIII injection molded > 1/48 Pfalz D.XII, also preferably by Eduard > 1/48 Ansaldo A-1 injection mold (can be resin like Spin SVA.5) > 1/48 Martinside F.4 Buzzard > 1/48 Pitts S-2B 1/72 Fe2b David S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:17:19 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: PC10 or not so PC10 kits Message-ID: <7EB22CEA4A6C4D115AA50005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> Todd, >Check "High in the Empty Blue". Is there an all red SE5a in 56 Sqdn too? I dont have High in the Empty Blue. >How about a red SE5a?! This is the aircraft I was talking about; http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/afc_profiles_10215.htm Though that depiction of the Kangaroo is less than ideal. >Americals includes this a/c as an option >on their 56 squadron sheets. Didnt 60 Sqn also have red, yellow and blue for their SE5a flights with coloured noses and stripes? There is also Rod Dallas's 40 Sqn camouflaged SE5a D3511 too. Plenty of non-standard schemes :) cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/pointcook/ TH ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:55:31 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Neat RE8 Message-ID: <200011301254.EAA07714@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> There's a nicely done 1/72nd RE8 on Hyperscale: http://www.hyperscale.com/gallery/re8pl_1.htm Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:55:26 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Christmas Wish List Message-ID: <200011301408.GAA01070@mail.rapidnet.net> ---------- >> 1/48 SPAD VII. Preferably injection-molded. >> 1/72 Junkers D-I Injection >> 1/72nd SPAD 7, preferably by Eduard >> 1/72 Nieuport 17 injection mold >> 1/72 Caproni Ca-3 Injection (Eduard?) >> 1/72 Fairey F2 Vacuformed >> 1/48 Rumbler CIII injection molded >> 1/48 Pfalz D.XII, also preferably by Eduard >> 1/48 Ansaldo A-1 injection mold (can be resin like Spin SVA.5) >> 1/48 Martinside F.4 Buzzard >> 1/48 Pitts S-2B >>1/72 Fe2b 1/72 and/or 1/48 Junkers J.I Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:58:28 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: PC10 or not so PC10 kits Message-ID: <200011301411.GAA01121@mail.rapidnet.net> >>Check "High in the Empty Blue". > > Is there an all red SE5a in 56 Sqdn too? I don't > have High in the Empty Blue. Yup Duncan Grinnel-Milne flew Schweinhund IV postwar in these colours >>Americals includes this a/c as an option >>on their 56 squadron sheets. > > Didn't 60 Sqn also have red, yellow and blue for > their SE5a flights with coloured noses and stripes? those were SE5s, not SE5as Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:00:26 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Pfalz E.I Message-ID: <200011301259.EAA08348@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:37:15 -0500 (EST), Ernest Thomas wrote: > I built two of em. Beautiful little kit. It was a numbered limited run. The two I happened to build were numbers 2 and 3. I just acquired one and that will be the basis for a MoS Type H. Unfortunately my kit is riddled with air holes. Bummer too because some of them are in the nicely done rib tapes. Now to find French MoS Type H schemes - not too many of them, but the H in French service in photos are very allusive. Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:22:44 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: MoS Type L Message-ID: <004501c05ad0$a8bb04a0$9bf0aec7@default> Is there a 1/72 kit of the Morane Saulnier parasol? Or do I have to convert from one of the MoS / Pfalz mid wing kits? TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:31:31 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New images Message-ID: <200011301330.FAA19317@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I just uploaded some images of Bill Arnold's Nie.11. Nice model, even if it is the Merlin kit. ;-) Well done, Bill! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:33:12 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: MoS Type L Message-ID: <200011301332.FAA22952@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:23:44 -0500 (EST), smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > Is there a 1/72 kit of the Morane Saulnier parasol? Or do I have to convert > from one of the MoS / Pfalz mid wing kits? The most accurate kit is the HR resin. However - and this is what I'm going to do - I would replace the resin wing with a vac. That long of a resin with only the center struts as support you're just asking for warping problems. The other kits are inaccurate, including - I think - the kits of the Pfalz A.I. Matt Bittner "This isn't Nebraska, it's a half-way home for Hee-Haw rejects." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:34:42 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: MoS Type L Message-ID: <002901c05ad2$4bd29da0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Steve: Scho did one in 1/72 (or it was a pfalzie?) I can't remember the brand of if it was scratchbuilt. Check his site. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 10:23 AM Subject: MoS Type L > Is there a 1/72 kit of the Morane Saulnier parasol? Or do I have to convert > from one of the MoS / Pfalz mid wing kits? > > TIA > sp > E-mail smperry@mindspring.com > Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:45:00 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: MoS Type L Message-ID: <200011301344.FAA28033@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:41:07 -0500 (EST), dfernet0 wrote: > Scho did one in 1/72 (or it was a pfalzie?) I can't remember the brand of if > it was scratchbuilt. Check his site. It was, I believe, the Scaleplanes vac. About 1/76th, or something like that. Too small for 1/72nd. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2853 **********************