WWI Digest 3810 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: speaking of cookups by Shane Weier 2) New package! by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 3) Re: speaking of cookups by "Ross Moorhouse" 4) by "TOPER机柜" 5) Re: New package! by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 6) Re: speaking of cookups by Shane Weier 7) Re: New package! by Todd Hayes 8) Re: speaking of cookups by =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= 9) RE: HD.3 (was Re: Re: wich IM?) by Todd Hayes 10) Re: speaking of cookups by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 11) RE: speaking of cookups by Rory Goodwin 12) Re: speaking of cookups by Shane Weier 13) RE: Wanted: Dragon SPAD XIII by Rory Goodwin 14) Re: Help ideas neeed for evening programs by Rory Goodwin 15) Re: speaking of cookups by Shane Weier 16) RE: Wanted: Dragon SPAD XIII by Todd Hayes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:21:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD647@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross says: > Get a Nieuport cook Up going. cant see why there cant be > several different ones going at once. :) Way back when we first started the cook-up thing we talked this over and decided we'd do *one* at a time - though there was dissent the reason was because it focused us on all doing the same thing, which is surely the purpose of a cookup. Taken to the logical extreme, we could be said to be conducting 150 cookups already - each in his own little world. I for one fell off the Sopwith cookup concept the instant I read the first post saying: "I couldn't be bothered to take part in a cookup, but tell me again when you start a cookup" YMMV, but for me the fun was working as part of a team on a project. Take that away and I don't have the incentive I need to get over my innate laziness. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:50:54 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: New package! Message-ID: <004701c1577f$c54ff7e0$298ee2c8@computador> Hello, folks! With some delay due to mail problems (everyone is opening everything now), my package from NKR arrived! Contents were not very special: an already known Roden Pfalz D.IIIa, which will become Berthold's aircraft (I'm finishing the same kit in Degelow's markings), and a Roden Pfalz D.III. This one will become Lt. Alois Heldmann's aircraft. To be honest, the only scheme I liked, since all others were silbergrau, silbergrau, silbergrau... at least this one has also green and blue grey! All the best from Brazil Marcio Campos (from home) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:17:58 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <000f01c1578b$e577f840$a7c7223f@umber> Point taken Shane. But does anyone start and finish a model before starting on the next one? I know I don't. :(( Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: speaking of cookups | Ross says: | | > Get a Nieuport cook Up going. cant see why there cant be | > several different ones going at once. :) | | Way back when we first started the cook-up thing we talked this over and | decided we'd do *one* at a time - though there was dissent the reason was | because it focused us on all doing the same thing, which is surely the | purpose of a cookup. | | Taken to the logical extreme, we could be said to be conducting 150 cookups | already - each in his own little world. I for one fell off the Sopwith | cookup concept the instant I read the first post saying: | | "I couldn't be bothered to take part in a cookup, but tell me | again when you start a cookup" | | YMMV, but for me the fun was working as part of a team on a project. Take | that away and I don't have the incentive I need to get over my innate | laziness. | | | Shane | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ********************************************************************** | The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is | intended only for the use of the addressee(s). | If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or | copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:33:18 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD649@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross: > Point taken Shane. But does anyone start and finish a model > before starting > on the next one? I know I don't. :(( Really trying to educate me aren't you? Last week it was "cold and rainy" you were trying to explain. Now it's "finish" What is this thing called "finish"? I had an idea it had something to do with floor polish, as in "At some point in the Future I will finish a model" Sounds messy and unlikely. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:44:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New package! Message-ID: <20011018044401.14515.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Marcio, Neil, It's all a part of the addiction. The number of kits increase because the withdrawl pains can only be soothed and satisfied by a steadily replenished supply of fresh styrene/resin/wood/metal. Todd --- Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au wrote: > > Marcio; > > Your modelling cupboard is starting to fill..... : > ) > > Neil E. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________ > NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you > are not the intended recipient of this communication > please delete and destroy all copies immediately. 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Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:44:55 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= To: Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <011c01c1572b$0d0c3a80$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar> I never do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have many started at the same time. HUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! I'll confess;my shrink says that building a lot of models at the same time is a trauma from my childhood for having to explain to my parents that their 6-year old son made strange conversion operations from pennies,1/2 crowns,chellings to Argentine Pesos All this justified by Mr.Perez Mouse. When they asked:Are you going to build them all? I did the impossible for them to believe it. The shop that sold me Airfix from England,that lasted 8 moths to arrive (1962) should now pay my shrink. HHHUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! Snif! Snif!! Reality Show Modeling Mart韓 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:17 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: speaking of cookups > Point taken Shane. But does anyone start and finish a model before starting > on the next one? I know I don't. :(( > > Ross > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shane Weier" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:23 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: speaking of cookups > > > | Ross says: > | > | > Get a Nieuport cook Up going. cant see why there cant be > | > several different ones going at once. :) > | > | Way back when we first started the cook-up thing we talked this over and > | decided we'd do *one* at a time - though there was dissent the reason was > | because it focused us on all doing the same thing, which is surely the > | purpose of a cookup. > | > | Taken to the logical extreme, we could be said to be conducting 150 > cookups > | already - each in his own little world. I for one fell off the Sopwith > | cookup concept the instant I read the first post saying: > | > | "I couldn't be bothered to take part in a cookup, but tell me > | again when you start a cookup" > | > | YMMV, but for me the fun was working as part of a team on a project. Take > | that away and I don't have the incentive I need to get over my innate > | laziness. > | > | > | Shane > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | ********************************************************************** > | The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > | intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > | If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > | copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > | forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > | MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > | > | e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > | phone: Australia 1800500646 > | International ++61 7 38338042 > | ********************************************************************** > | > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:49:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: HD.3 (was Re: Re: wich IM?) Message-ID: <20011018044906.37416.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Cannabals! --- Shane Weier wrote: > Diego > > > Boy I feel like Manfred on a lucky day! Now I'll > go looking for some > > canadians and australians for lunch > > You'll need to get up *much* earlier in the morning > to do that. Canadians > and Aussies have Argentinians as appetizerss. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:51:43 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: Shane; I've finished all the models I've started - I will even finish my BM SE5a, (after a struggle) but then again, I am from Melbourne. : )) PS: Do you know the ratios for Tamiya Matt Agent (or whatever its called) in Future to reduce it to (a) A satin finish (b) a matt finish? Neil E. (Off to do some work) : ( _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:03:30 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <3BCE62A2.9C1CD3A4@earthlink.net> What about the RNAS flight that bombed the Zeppelin sheds at Friedrichshafen in Nov. 1914 or the three (?) that were used in N. Russia to bomb & strafe the Bolshies in 1919? I might be willing to engage in single combat with a Smer kit... Crawford Neil wrote: > I'm afraid that the only 504 that can get me the slightest > bit excited were the 504N's used by the City of London Squadron > (I think) in the twenties, so I'd better shutup! > /Neil C. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > > Sent: den 17 oktober 2001 16:20 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] speaking of cookups > > > > > > Hi list! > > Ross and me were talking about Avro 504s off list, wich I > > think that is > > one -if not the most- widely used airplane after WW1. Lots of > > markings can > > be applied, and lots of modifications. > > The Avros can be a GREAT subject for a new cook-up, being > > recently released > > the Amodel wich is not expensive and the SMER kit, wich can > > be built into an > > excellent model with a little work. > > Tell me what do you think > > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:21:34 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD64C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil, > I've finished all the models I've started - I will even > finish my BM SE5a, > (after a struggle) but then again, I am from Melbourne. : )) Of course. What else is there to do. > > PS: Do you know the ratios for Tamiya Matt Agent (or whatever > its called) > in Future to reduce it to (a) A satin finish (b) a matt finish? Yes. The answer is................ It depends. BUT.....you should err on the side of not enough, rather than too much, because if you overdo it I will guarantee you'll get white cloudy deposits on your model (and probably blame me ;-) I don't do this any longer, preferring to use an enamel topcoat after one too many experiences of removing what should have been the completed painjob. > (Off to do some work) : ( You've got a .gov address. What does work have to do with it ? BIG ===> :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:27:28 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Wanted: Dragon SPAD XIII Message-ID: <3BCE6840.6CDB2BEE@earthlink.net> Speaking of SPADs, Anyone with a Dragon SPAD can trade it for an Eduard E.V/D.VIII or a Dragon Josef Jacobs Dr. I (praise Ares, Wotan, Odin, Crom, etc. for Longs Drug stores!). Contact me off-list. Crawford Neil wrote: > I must defend the Spad 13 here, this is the second time > this week it's been picked on, last time it was the > Ansaldo Balilla that was better. It's an unfair comparison > the Spad was at the end of it's career, and you're all comparing > it to 1918 designs, the Spad had it's peek with the Spad 7, the > Spad 13 was just a "mid-life update", that just about kept the > old girl on level with the latest fighters in 1918. The fighters > coming into service in late 1918-1919 were much better, for > instance the Spad 20 would have been a very good 2-seat fighter. > /Neil C. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > > Sent: den 17 oktober 2001 01:08 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] HD.3 (was Re: Re: wich IM?) > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:53:19 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > > > > > Great work. I got the J.M. Bruce book thanks to a friend > > and was intrigued > > > to read the article again. The fuselage side struts are > > strange, ain't them? > > > > Thanks for the good words, D. Yes, quite the odd arrangement, but I > > bet it would have been an formidable foe. I can recall > > completely, but > > I think it was *better* than the SPAD 13 in most regards. Just too > > late to matter. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:29:34 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Help ideas neeed for evening programs Message-ID: <3BCE68BD.488373DD@earthlink.net> I personally think Cam's idea is a winner, since I have a couple of Cyg's great resin kits somewhere which remain unstarted and the closest I've gotten to buildinga vac kit is gluing (sp?) the plastic parts together for Guillows kits I never finished... cameron rile wrote: > Michael Kendix, > > >So, if folks could give me the benefit of > >their experience, I would be grateful. > > No experience here... but I would be interested > in 30 min workshops on doing resin kits or doing > vacuforms. One on weathering would be probably be > useful too, I picked up the dry brushing, washing > and pastel chalks from trying to weather the > MkIV. The latter would probably be of universal > use and get the Corsair builders in. > > cam > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:27:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD64D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mark says: > the idea that the 1/48 scale contingent would have to > make do with an old Aurora kit is another negative in my book. A positive in mine. *Almost* enough to inspire me if the whole list was trying. > besides, I thought the next cookup was going to be Nieuports, > not to metion the fact that the Sopwith cookup is still unfinished. > sorry guys, just my opinion One I agree with, however........ > I have to admit though - I didn't know that this plane was so > common in the post war period. North America Centricity. Think "Jenny", transpose yourself to all those places the old British Empire then held sway, and the Avro-504 fills much the same niche. Canada is a special case, since they couldn't defend that long border well enough to keep Glen Curtiss out ;-) > I also have not seen a wide > variety of interesting post war schemes. > any online refernces? Not that I know of. Plenty of interesting OT schemes anyway. Think training unit schemes with markings in bright colours Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:41:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Wanted: Dragon SPAD XIII Message-ID: <20011018054130.40832.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Rory, Squadron has them for sale for cheap. The overseas shipping charges will nearly kill you though. Todd --- Rory Goodwin wrote: > Speaking of SPADs, Anyone with a Dragon SPAD can > trade it for an Eduard > E.V/D.VIII or a Dragon Josef Jacobs Dr. I (praise > Ares, Wotan, Odin, Crom, > etc. for Longs Drug stores!). Contact me off-list. > > Crawford Neil wrote: > > > I must defend the Spad 13 here, this is the second > time > > this week it's been picked on, last time it was > the > > Ansaldo Balilla that was better. It's an unfair > comparison > > the Spad was at the end of it's career, and you're > all comparing > > it to 1918 designs, the Spad had it's peek with > the Spad 7, the > > Spad 13 was just a "mid-life update", that just > about kept the > > old girl on level with the latest fighters in > 1918. The fighters > > coming into service in late 1918-1919 were much > better, for > > instance the Spad 20 would have been a very good > 2-seat fighter. > > /Neil C. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Bittner > [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > > > Sent: den 17 oktober 2001 01:08 > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > Subject: [WWI] HD.3 (was Re: Re: wich IM?) > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:53:19 -0400 (EDT), > dfernet0 wrote: > > > > > > > Great work. I got the J.M. Bruce book thanks > to a friend > > > and was intrigued > > > > to read the article again. The fuselage side > struts are > > > strange, ain't them? > > > > > > Thanks for the good words, D. Yes, quite the > odd arrangement, but I > > > bet it would have been an formidable foe. I can > recall > > > completely, but > > > I think it was *better* than the SPAD 13 in most > regards. Just too > > > late to matter. > > > > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3810 **********************